Understanding the Mid-50%
Posted by watsonjh on Thursday, December 9, 2010 in Standardized Testing.
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December 10th, 2010
What a great post! I am counting down the days until decisions are mailed, and your posts definitely make it easier by getting more insight into the process! Keep posting 🙂
December 10th, 2010
How much weight does the essay have in the application process? I understand you want to hear the voice of the applicant, but what if the student failed to really choose an “interesting” topic or something that allowed them to stand out from the rest of the pool? As long as the grammar and spelling is correct will the counselor deny an applicant based on a weaker essay? Thank you for your response.
December 10th, 2010
David: There is no weight to the essay. We have no weights at all in the process. For this reason a student can write a less-than-enthralling essay and still receive admission. Sam, who I described in a previous post, did not have an essay topic that popped out at me, but he had amazing letters of recommendation. The x-factor can be different for every student.
December 10th, 2010
I have heard that some letters of acceptances will be mailed for ED1 candidates as early as today. Can you tell me if that is occurring, or are you on track to mail every letter on December 15th, as previously posted?
Thank you.
December 10th, 2010
Elisa: All of the letters are going out at the same time. Right now it looks as if they will mail on either the evening of the 14th or the morning of the 15th. They’re definitely not going out today!
December 10th, 2010
I had heard from several Vanderbilt students that they (in the past) received email acceptances. Was that the case and is there any chance that we will hear online or phone, this year?
December 10th, 2010
David: We do not release decisions via email unless the applicant is currently living outside of the United States. Students cannot learn of their decisions via phone until December 21st.
December 10th, 2010
All this waiting is definitely making me nauseous. If it weren’t so obviously psychological I would strongly embrace the Pepto Bismol.
December 10th, 2010
Of all of your students you have had for ED1, about how many have you accepted?
December 10th, 2010
Sarah: We will publish these numbers at the close of Early Decision in February.
December 10th, 2010
do i still have a chance if my TOEFL is 95, which is below the minimum requirement?
December 12th, 2010
Hugh: We will give every application a holistic review, but generally we are looking for TOEFL scores at 100 or above.
December 11th, 2010
Thanks so much! This blog is helping me keep calm until ED1 decisions are mailed! This was also a helpful insight into what test scores really mean, how I fit into the numbers and how y’all view numbers!
December 12th, 2010
So when should we expect our letters with our decision? On the 15th? Or later?
December 13th, 2010
Do Regular Decision applicants who turn in their apps. early find out any sooner than last-minute Regular Decisions? Thanks!
December 13th, 2010
Christa: No. All RD students will receive notification according to our calendar: April 1st unless you are a scholarship recipient.
December 19th, 2010
Hi! I hope all is well!
If I am applying for a scholarship, will the credentials I submit for the scholarship be viewed at the same time as my application for admission is reviewed?
I am applying ED2, fyi.
December 29th, 2010
I heard some colleges only look at the English and math sections of the ACT. Is this true for Vanderbilt?
My highest composite ACT score is a 30. When I got the 30 I scored a 25 on the English section and a 35 on the math section. However, on another test where my composite ACT score was a 29, I got a 32 on English and 34 on math. Clearly, the english score is 7 points higher with the 29 composite score, yet 29 is a worse composite score than a 30.
Should I send my composite score of a 30 or a 29? Please let me know! Thank you!
December 30th, 2010
Travis: We will consider your single highest composite score.
January 28th, 2011
Hello! I commend all of you guys who have earned a 30 or higher on the ACT. I really wish that could be me hopefully in February. My question is, honestly, what are the number or students who have been accepted with a composite of 25? I have a low composite but I have a really good subscore of 29 in English and mid 20s in the other subtests. I also have good recommendations, rank,GPA, and essay. Do you think that I still have a chance at being accepted into Vanderbilt.
January 28th, 2011
Robbie: As much as I know this isn’t necessarily the answer you want- it depends. Of our enrolled applicants who submitted ACT scores, 25% had scores lower than a 30. Many different factors go into the application, it truly is more than just numbers. Thus, knowing your testing doesn’t help me identify if you “have a chance”. Know that admission is difficult for all of our applicants and I wish you the best of luck!
August 8th, 2011
In our town my daughter has the opportunity to attend a selective magnet high school or attend a typical high school that offers the “IB” diploma. Which would be more attractive to Vanderbilt (all other things being equal). She really has her heart on being a student at Vandy! I was going to call and ask, but I stumbled across this blog and thought I might give this a shot.
Thanks!
October 25th, 2011
Do you now superscore the ACT?
October 26th, 2011
Thanks for your question, Tricia. We don’t superscore the ACT, we just consider a student’s highest composite score. Our position is that the ACT is not as well-suited to be superscored because of the nature of the test. There is simply not as much wiggle room for the ACT since it is only based on a 36 point scale.
December 20th, 2011
Just wondering how merit money or the discount rate is at your school for strong students. My parents have no savings for college due to loss of a job a few years in the past and the three siblings that will need college after me. But on a financial aid form their income currently is way too high for aid. I have a strong resume of school activities, a GPA of over 4 and ACT of 31. I am top in my school but don’t have an ACT of 36 to put me over into the extreme numbers category. What does the picture look like for a student like me. I am beginning to think the best colleges are only for the poor and the truly wealthy,upper middle class need not apply?
Julie
December 20th, 2011
Hi Julie,
Our need-based financial aid process if very extensive and takes into account much more than just the parents’ income (things like, I have four siblings in school, or all of our money is in assets, etc). This is why we actually require two forms – the FAFSA and the CSS Profile – to make sure we have considered all aspects of your financial situation. Once you have filled out these forms, we garauntee to meet 100% of your demonstrated need, loan-free.  In addition, we do have merit-based scholarships as well. I highly encourage you to apply for both of these forms of aid, regardless of what you think your package might turn out to be. For more information feel free to visit the financial aid website (https://admissions2025.vanderbilt.edu/financial-aid-facts.php) or contact our Financial Aid office at 615-322-3591.
January 2nd, 2012
hi i graduate in 2019 and ive been researching on collages and before i decided to do this my only choices were harverd or yale to get my law degree but now you guys are in my options list! You guys rock and thanks for being their for us and hopefully i get the right SAT or ACT score to be accepted!
February 17th, 2013
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February 28th, 2013
what about the gpa
February 28th, 2013
Can you clarify your question?
December 14th, 2014
Hello, my Sat score is quite low and my score was 1640. Should i still apply to Vanderbilt University or not? What are my chances?
December 15th, 2014
Hi Mihika, thanks for your question. The best resource to start with is the profile of our current students (here: https://admissions2025.vanderbilt.edu/profile/). With the profile, you can see how your scores compare to our middle 50%. As we say in the post, we can’t know your chances without reviewing the rest of your application (not to mention the rest of the applicant pool). The middle 50% gives you a good starting place to evaluate your application – beyond that, it would be a good idea to speak with your admissions counselor to discuss other aspects of your application. You can find your counselor’s contact information at https://admissions2025.vanderbilt.edu/your-counselor/ Thanks!
October 2nd, 2015
Does the fact that I have not joined one club in high school lower my chances of being accepted?
October 2nd, 2015
Thanks for your question. Just as we don’t have cut-off scores for testing, we don’t have minimums for club or organization involvement. Instead, we evaluate activities outside the classroom in terms of depth of involvement, roles and responsibilities, and leadership. We want to know what you spend your time on and what you’re passionate about. That doesn’t have to be a high school club – it could be volunteer work, a business or non-profit you started or work for, some kind of artistic or athletic endeavor, or many other things. Again, thanks for your question!
January 12th, 2016
How does a high rising trend look to the committee? Example: Someone who started off with a 3.1 freshman year, 3.4 sophomore year and a 3.9 this year. Also I am a volunteer EMT, so would that help at all? Thanks!
January 12th, 2016
Hi Jason, thank you for your question. A positive trend in your GPA through high school is definitely favorable. Remember that our academic evaluation takes into consideration the rigor of your curriculum – we’re not just looking for strong grades, but we also want to see that you are making those strong grades in classes that are challenging. Your experience as an EMT is also something that will be considered. If that is something you are truly passionate about, make sure that comes through in your application. Again, thanks for your question and your interest in Vanderbilt!
February 22nd, 2016
How much is the ACT writing portion considered? I got a 35 ACT composite score but a 14 for my writing. Thank you for your response.
February 29th, 2016
Thanks for your question. First, remember that standardized testing is only a part of our holistic application process. And while the writing portion of the ACT is required, the composite score is the more important factor in our process.
April 19th, 2016
As an international student from Asia, I studied high school since my freshman year. English is not my native language. May I have an idea if you will consider it being a factor for lower SAT 2040?
April 21st, 2016
Thanks for your question. Applicants whose native language is not English have specific admissions requirements. You should check our requirements for international students page at https://admissions2025.vanderbilt.edu/apply/international.php
May 3rd, 2016
How much does the score of your essay on an ACT affect the admissions process? For example, I got a 35 composite ACT score but I messed up the essay and only got an 18 on the essay. Also, I have a 750 on SAT English section. If i were to send both SAT and ACT scores, do I need to worry about the essay score or do you think the low essay score might be disregarded considering my admissions essays and high SAT English score? Thanks!
May 11th, 2016
Thanks for your question, Harrison. Beginning with admission for the Class of 2021, the writing section of the ACT and the Essay section of the SAT are not required. You can also talk more thoroughly about your individual testing with your Vanderbilt admissions counselor. Thanks.
September 6th, 2016
I have a question regarding gpa. Do you guys count the weighted gpa or unweighted gpa? Also, I volunteer at the Audobon Center, which works with environmental matters and what I want to major in is environmental science and I took AP Environmental Science and passed with a 4, would this favor me when it comes to admissions?
September 20th, 2016
Hi Cristina, thanks for your questions. Regarding GPA, we evaluate based on what your high school reports on your official transcript. And, yes, we do consider your “fit” for the academic school to which you are applying, and your academic record and outside involvement are certainly considered. Again, thanks for your interest.
December 31st, 2016
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